Ref NoWIN/010
CollectionWinstanley Oral History Collection
TitleMrs E. Baillie interviewed by Michael Winstanley
Name of creatorWinstanley, Michael
Date11/11/1974
Duration1 hr. 15 min. 04 sec.
Extent1 sound tape reel
1 audio file Waveform Audio
DescriptionMrs. E. Baillie, born in 1903, interviewed in Folkestone. Mrs. Baillie's father was a engineering manufacturer owner but became a CofE clergyman, and her mother was from a clerical background. Baillie was from a family of 2 girls and had a nanny and maids, her maiden name was Preston.
Track 1 [1:15:04] [First interview: 11th November 1974] [0:00:00] Introduction: interview of Mrs Eileen Baillie [Mrs B] at her home in north Lyminge near Folkestone Kent by Michael Winstanley of the University of Kent at Canterbury on 11th November 1974. Mrs B. born in London 1903. [0:00:19] Description of family background, father from family of ship propeller engineers J.Stone and Company (later Stone Manganese Marine), mother a vicar’s daughter. Father an Oxford MA and Church of England vicar of St Michael’s and All Saints, Bromley by Bow, covering the East India Docks. [0:03:11] Anecdotes about watching the drunks on St Leonard’s Road on bank holidays and Sundays, fights. [0:06:15] Description of dockers’ houses; 2 up 2 down, outside closet, no baths, open grates. [0:07:09] Description of vicarage life, separate room for parish meetings to exclude vermin from house, father giving food and hospital vouchers. Mention of free medical treatment from West London doctors at Poplar Hospital. [0:09:52] Description of dockyard day, shifts, hiring of staff, wages. [0:12:18] Remarks on high social status of railway employees. [0:13:42] Comments on charities, Salvation and Church Armies, father’s ‘begging sermons’ in West London, Bournemouth, Torquay, father holding services in pubs. Remarks on full churches, ‘bun Christians’ [attending for warmth/refreshments]. [0:17:08] Anecdote about Thames dumb bargee saying Angelus daily, blocking river traffic. [0:19:05] Remarks that father not against pubs, alcohol kept in house, pubs open 6 am to midnight. [0:20:41] Mention of temperance organisations in parish, Band of Hope, Old Boys Brigade. [0:21:24] Remarks on poverty, disgrace of workhouse, families helping out, frequent bailiff evictions. [0:23:47] Anecdote about bare footed children with underclothes sewn into brown paper bags in winter. [0:24:49] Remarks on smallpox epidemics from docks, 2 yearly vaccinations, epidemics of measles, scarlet fever. [0:26:12] Comments on mother organising voluntary ‘social welfare visitors’ for parish, dread of TB. [0:28:42] Comments on George Lansbury, Labour MP, supporting mother’s scheme. [0:29:57] Mention of Mrs B’s paternal uncle as Tory MP for Mile End unseated 1918. [0:30:20] Comments on ‘social welfare visitors’ from rich parts of London, ‘slumming’ fashionable. [0:32:32] Detailed description of vicarage study, use for ‘chapter’ meetings with curates, father’s sailing trophies. [0:33:26] Mention of father’s weekly sailing races at Teddington, Bourne End. [0:35:44] Mention of Mrs B’s paternal grandfather living at Hayes Court [Bromley]. [0:39:13] Detailed description of vicarage drawing room, uses, furniture, furnishings, visit of Princess Christian [Queen Victoria’s daughter] to open parish hall. [0:42:04] Detailed description of vicarage kitchen, Eagle range. [0:43:08] Description of servants quarters, 2 live-in servants, cook and house parlour maid. [0:43:30] Mention of South Bromley Station on Broad Street/Custom House line. [0:44:15] Mention of bathroom with running water, electricity throughout and telephone. [0:44:45] Mention of rivalry between National Telephone and Bell’s Telephone. [0:49:42] Anecdote about fire at Spratts dog biscuit factory. Mention of Bryant and May match factory. [0:50:56] Detailed description of day nursery. [0:54:01] Comments on other upstairs rooms, father’s dressing room with ‘compactum’ [wardrobe], parents’ bedroom, 2 spare rooms. [0:56:40] Remarks about poor garden soil. Mention of Crisp Street market for plants. [0:58:16] Mention of father’s red Astor car. [0:59:06] Remarks on location of toilets in vicarage. [0:59:44] Detailed description of Crisp Street market; stalls lit by naphtha flares, food, clothing, oleographs, plants, cheapjacks selling patent medicines. [1:02:00] Story of trips ‘up west’ by tram from East India Dock gate to Aldgate Pump, ABC tea rooms, fleas from tram. Mention of last horse drawn tram c 1907/8. [1:03:42] Mention of car journey through Blackwall Tunnel to Hayes, Kent. [1:04:54] Description of street vendors of sasparilla, ice cream, muffins, milk, barrel organ and monkey. Comment that ice cream made by Italians and unhygienic. [1:06:31] Remarks that baker, butcher, grocer delivered to larger houses but poor went to shops. Post delivered 3 times daily. [1:08:07] Anecdote about skipping ritual on Good Friday on all major streets, special costumes.
NotesTranscript exists for this interview.
PhysicalDescription1 sound tape reel : analogue, 5 inch reel, 9,5 cm/sec, 2 track, mono
Waveform Audio
Related OrganisationUniversity of Kent
Related PlaceBromley, London, Kent
Access filenameWIN-010-001A-A.mp3
CategoryAudio recordings
Access conditionsAvailable for consultation at the University of Kent's Special Collections & Archives reading room, Templeman Library, University of Kent, Canterbury, CT2 7NU. Access is available via digital listening copies. The University of Kent acknowledges the intellectual property rights of those named as contributors in this recording and the rights of those not identified.
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